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  Looking for Brian Hill, in LA possibly?

  by version 2.0 in

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  i'm looking for brian hill who used to go to the morrow congregation on the south side of atlanta.

  i knew him from 1987 on.

  his parents and brother are still in but i'm pretty sure he's still out, since the mid-90's.

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  I'm looking for Brian Hill who used to go to the Morrow congregation on the south side of Atlanta. I knew him from 1987 on. His parents and brother are still in but I'm pretty sure he's still out, since the mid-90's. He was in Bethel from 89 to I think 91 and moved to Seattle when he married a sister out there. They split up. I've tried to get in touch w/him through his parents but they won't return my calls because I'm df'd too. I saw his brother a couple years ago & he said Brian was in SoCal, but I didn't think to get a # right then.

  He was one of my favorite people when I was in and growing up, anyone know him? I know this is a stretch but not too many options here.

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  Is Society Really That Degraded?

  by pettygrudger in

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  i just read this on another thread:it seems to me , that nowadays "anything goes" and thats a shame.

  do any of you really believe that our societies morals are any less decrepid than any other time in history?

  if so, can someone tell me of any time in history that was more "morally" righteous, pure or wholesome?.

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  I've got to butt in too:

  It may sound cheesy, but in "The Vampire Lestat", Lestat wakes up after two hundred years or so of sleep, to find that the world has changed. He says that it's for the better because in the 1700's only the rich could dress, say, and behave as they pleased, while the peasants were too busy surviving and the bourgeousie were too stuffy. Now everyone dresses, says, and behaves as they please and the world has more of a pulse. Vices are no longer just for the privileged.

  Moral decline? Anyone remember Rome? Brutality toward others? Genghis Khan anyone? And for my money, you can't beat the Bible for R-rated violence.

  But of course being surrounded for years by people who need the idea that things are going to hell in a hurry will influence the way we see the world.

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  What are you currently reading?

  by Sirona in

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  as ex-dubs we are free to read whatever the hell we want to read.

  in celebration of that fact (and to give me some ideas on what to read next .

  sirona

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  Last nonfiction: "Odd Girl Out" by Rachel Simmons, "Good to Great" by Jim Collins.

  Last fiction: "Fury" by Salman Rushdie.

  One of the best things about being freed from the WTS is not feeling guilty for reading what brings pleasure and expands the mind instead of the latest article in the awake about the yellow-bellied sapsucker and how it brings praise to god.

  I like the work of Anne Rice, Tom Robbins, Rushdie, Doug Coupland and Bret Easton Ellis.

  Tom Robbins' latest one is called "Villa Inca" and it comes out soon. Should be a good one!

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  Go Me!

  by joannadandy in

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  well it is coming up on my one year anniversary here at jwd.

  (tomorrow, 6/6).

  and holy hell, what a year it has been.

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  happy anniversary....wait, no, happy birthday.......wait, no, can't celebrate those......oh, right, now i can......but anniversaries were always cool....oh hell with it, happy one year!!!!

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  How did you find this site?

  by JH in

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  how did you find this site?

  did you make a search in google for jw's, or did someone tell you about this forum?.

  how did you end up here?

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  my girl did a jw search online and got freeminds. i got this forum from the net soup scroller. wheeeeeee!!

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  why do some of you still go to the kh/read the mags etc?

  by version 2.0 in

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  i know some of you still go to the hall, are in the organization at some level of activity, or at least read the mags.

  my question is, why?

  i've got my ideas, like for family etc, but my curiosity leads me to ask.

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  i know some of you still go to the hall, are in the organization at some level of activity, or at least read the mags. my question is, why? i've got my ideas, like for family etc, but my curiosity leads me to ask. how is it that you can visit here, keep up-to-date on all sorts of organizational skeletons, and still have a foot in the other door?

  realizing of course that all of us have very different situations and circumstances that have brought us here. i don't have a follow-up judgemental post. i'm just wondering. anyone care to share?

  thanks, dan
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  Things my Dad taught me

  by DanTheMan in

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  things my dad taught me.

  children don't need encouragement or coaching - unspoken expectations and incredulousness and anger when they are not met are the way to go.. newspapers, national geographic magazines, and fraternal organizations are much more interesting and more worthy of a time investment than children are.. children are noisy nuisances.

  keep reminding them of this by yelling whenever they make too much noise, accidentally get in your way, or otherwise annoy you or complicate your life.

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  my stepfather worked hard to provide for me and my sisters. sometimes two jobs. he's also a controlling prick who is playing the role he was born to play: the p.o. of a georgia j.w. congregation.

  the day i moved out, (my 20th birthday), he came in my room, sat on the bed, put his arm around me and said he was proud of me and i was doing the right thing, moving out to learn how to take care of myself. this was 1991, when the jw's were trying to get kids to stay home as long as possible so they could pioneer. maybe they still are?

  then he said "you are always welcome to come back if things don't work out. but if you ever turn your back on jehovah, we'll turn our back on you."

  here's what he taught me:

  1. a man's job is to provide for his family and be a leader. work as hard as you can, take care of the people who depend on you and don't bitch.

  2. when you commit to something, be it a job or organization, whatever, give it all you've got.

  3. there are many jw's who have allowed themselves to believe that god really wants them to choose him over their families. they will shoot you in the back at the drop of a hat and believe they are doing the right thing, that they'll be rewarded for their faithfulness. (ever heard the one about the suicide bomber and the 72 virgins?)

  all three lessons are very real to me. too bad about the third one, eh?

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  Who's your idol?

  by JH in

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  do you have an idol or a person that you look up to?.

  please, share with us who your idol is?.

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  my nifty collection of graven images: the cross, marduk, baal, ra, the emporer of rome, that black velvet picture of elvis at the last supper.....

  other than that, i've always admired salman rushdie for his great fiction and ability to piss off an entire religion.

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  Have You Recieved Any Benefit From This Web Site???

  by minimus in

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  are you happier since you've found this place?

  if jwd were gone tomorrow, would you just look for another site to get involved with?

  my opinion of this board is that it is one of the best boards to learn current information from.

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  ahhh, yes i have benefited greatly from this site. even though my posts/replies are scarce, i do look at the new threads a few times a week. why do i visit after over a year of "trolling"?

  many of you are still reading wt literature and going to meetings. if something new comes around, this & freeminds would be the places to find it. i keep hoping for the shunning policy to change or some other detente.

  it's entertaining to see the jw apologists (soj etc) get torpedoed by their own convoluted reasoning or others' superior arguing skills. even though it gets a little nasty sometimes. and annoying when biggie and tupac (uh, minimus and farkel) got beef.

  i come here to be reminded of the many reasons why i left and will never go back. i come here to be affirmed in my resolve to live my life without religion even though it cost me my family and friends. i got new and better ones. i come here to know that i'm not alone in this and never was. i come here right after i post on a triathlete site. etc etc.

  every group has a dynamic, and when the stronger outspoken ones leave, other people step up their game to make up for the missing parts. as long as free thought and speech are encouraged and bickering is squashed, the chemistry will continue to evolve. there's an ebb and flow to it. jmo.

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  The dumbest thing I did as a witness

  by Vivamus in

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  when i was 14 or so, my attention got directed to queen.

  and i loved them.

  i'd save my allowance to buy cd's, posters, books etc from them.

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  holy christ! when did prince become a jw??????? what bridge have i been living under? (not the graffiti bridge).

  there was a rumor going around my part of michigan in the early 80's that prince was "demonized" because of the lyric in 1999, like he was informed by beelzebub of the date of armageddon. flawed reasoning in several ways, each scarier than the former. so i had to be a closeted fan.

  i started collecting "inappropriate" music starting in 1991 and threw it all out in '97 when i was making my failed comeback. (hey, just like prince!) the upside is that after i scrapped that idea, i bought everything again, this time on cd!

  dan of the "high on crack, totin' a machiiiiine gun" class